Vinismo is written by its readers -- Internet users like you -- and we need your help! Try our getting started guide to learn how.

Vinismo talk:Wine pages

From Vinismo

edit From Wine Bar

I'm chiming in to say you guys did a real bangup job on look and feel of the site! I'm having some trouble figuring out how to navigate, tho -- specifically like how to browse to a particular wine. For instance, I'd like to be able to go to, say, click Argentina and then see all the Malbecs, then browse them... On wine pages it would be good to have something about price, and where to buy. I'm just thinking along the lines of how I want to use a wine guide. I want to find a wine that sounds real tasty within my budget, compare it to some others, and then figure out where to get it. -- zcopley 18:56, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

I also agree that we need to have some price information on the wine pages, but it gets really tricky, since prices are so location-sensitive. A wine that's available for $31 in California might cost $50 in New York and some completely random number in London or Sydney. How are we going to handle this...? Let's discuss on Vinismo talk:Wine pages. --Evan 19:38, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

We really need your ideas on this. It would be easy to make "price ranges" (between 15 and 20$, etc.) to solve the problem of price differences between liquor stores, but that still wouldn't solve the internationalization (or even inter-US-state) problem. The same wine can go for 10 bucks in France and 50 in Canada, 30 in New York, 40 in Texas... It's really a dilemna. We need great minds to solve this problem. Any idea ? niko - vinismo 00:36, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

maybe have a "price range" on the main wine description page, and then link to WineNamePricePage ... where you can list prices by country/province/state/city ... that's clunky, but price variations are so significant, and price is such an elemental factor in choosing a wine, that I think it is worth doing. Hugh 12:37, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

What about using pricing information from online sources of wine, such as wine.com as a baseline, and then having a section about availability of each wine, where people can say things like "I found Canyon Creek Sauvignon Blanc at BevMo for $6.99!" etc. --Zach 17:47, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

the main question is geographic: in english UK prices vs. USA vs. Aust vs. Canada ... although in general those prices should generally be "equivalent" from country to country. that is, a $10 bottle in the US is usually $20 in Canada...etc. so maybe there could be some general geog-independent price points, so

$=USD 5-15, CAD 10-20, EUR 5-15, GBP 3-7

$$=USD 15-25, CAD 20-30, EUR 15-25, GBP, 7-15

$$$=USD 25-50 ... etc

and then you can go to a separate page that lists more specific pricing by country/province/state. Hugh 18:54, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

edit Wine template update

The wine template has been changed to reflect your requests. The major change is that from now on, wine pages will be created for each and every vintage. A 2002 and a 2003 wine of the same name will be on two different pages. Differences are too important between vintages to put them all together in the same article. niko - vinismo 22:09, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Something else for the template, maybe: packaging information. E.g.: natural cork vs. artificial, screw top, etc. Box, glass bottle, plastic bottle, juice box, flask, etc. -- Zach 22:42, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

edit Whine

Hey, so I added a wine last night (Dancing Bull Zin), but first I had to add the winery (Rancho Zabaco), and it was really, really hard to figure out which AVA wine region it belonged to. With a wine like that -- which has grapes mixed from Sonoma, Lodi, and all over the place -- I don't even know what relevance it is... Can't I just, like, choose "California" and add a wine page off that with my tasting notes and stuff, and then let someone else who really cares about classification put the page in the exact right spot? --Zach 22:39, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

I agree with this problem. To add my little Rhone Domaine du Vieux Lazaret Côtes du Ventoux (red) took the atlas and several research assistants to get everything right. The corollary to that is that to find my little Rhone, you need to know where it lives (in cotes du ventoux) ... which makes finding it impossible.

oh: what about getting some kind of geographic-based recommendation pages? This is *really* what I want: to know what I can get in Quebec that's good. What you can get here is different from Ontario, San Fran, and London. I'm going to the wine bar to add this request. Hugh 09:18, 27 July 2007 (EDT)